Showing posts with label repeater. Show all posts
Showing posts with label repeater. Show all posts

Monday, April 9, 2018

FAQ: Can I use two or more of these 3-port Hubs to connect several FW800 devices to my Mac?

FAQ: Can I use two or more of these 3-port Hubs to connect several FW800 devices to my Mac?

Yes you may, but you might be better served using the Unibrain five-port, rather than the Unibrain three port hub. Here's a topology using two three port hubs:

              Hub_1
HOST --- = p1 |
              | p2 = --- DEVICE         Hub_2
              | p3 = ------------  = p1 |
                                        | p2 = --- DEVICE
                                        | p3 = --- DEVICE

This works out of the box for self-powered FireWire devices. Bear in mind that any bus power devices will require an optional power supply. Also, the total device count on a single branch cannot exceed 16, and understand that aggregating multiple devices on a single port does create a potential for over-saturating bus bandwidth if several high-performance (e.g. HDDs) devices are sending data at once. However, for most uses, tiered hubs are fine. Lastly, put your slowest devices on the end of the chain.

Hope this was helpful.

Friday, September 2, 2011

Power Supply Information for Unibrain's FireRepeater Line of FireWire Repeater Hubs

12VDC 3A External Power Supplies/Adapters for Unibrain FireWire Devices)One of the more prevalent questions asked when purchasing FireWire repeater hubs is "do I need the optional power supply?" The answer to this question depends on what type of FireWire 800 or FireWire 400 devices are being used.

Quick Definitions: Self Powered vs. Bus Powered

A Self Powered FireWire device is one that plugs into the wall or utilizes internal batteries. One example is FireWire hard disk drives using 3.5in mechanism which come with their own power transformers and AC adapters. Another example are battery powered DV Camcorders. Most FireWire based audio equipment like those from Pro Tools is self powered as well

Bus Powered FireWire devices draw current from the FireWire bus itself. FireWire hard disk drives using 2.5in mechanisms are typically able to use bus power. Our CFFire800 Pro FireWire 800 UDMA CompactFlash reader requires bus power. Portable devices like the Apogee Duet require bus power as well.

If you are using self powered devices with a FireWire repeater hub, then there isn't a need to purchase an optional power supply. Conversely, if you are using bus powered FireWire products, you almost certainly need the optional power supply. [1]

Bus Power isn't always enough for multiple devices drawing current off multiple ports at the same time. If you daisy chain several devices, it also may draw more current than available. Further, the total amount of Amps a hub provides needs to divided by the number of ports to find per port current when each port is drawing current. In the case of Unibrain's FireRepeater 3A supply, this would work out approximately as follows:

Unibrain FireRepeater-800 Pro FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Repeater Hub 5 Port
(3 amperes) / 5 = 0.6 amperes approximately per port (max)
Unibrain FireRepeater-800 Pro FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Repeater Hub 4 Port
(3 amperes) / 4 = 0.75 amperes approximately per port (max)
Unibrain FireRepeater 800 FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Repeater Hub 3 Port
(3 amperes) / 3 = 1 ampere approximately per port (max)
Unibrain FireRepeater 400 FireWire 400 IEEE 1394a Repeater Hub 3 Port
(3 amperes) / 3 = 1 ampere approximately per port (max)

Often computer companies will list ports by watts, instead of amps. When a company lists Watts for their FireWire ports, divide it by 12 (FireWire is typically 12 Volts) to find the Amperage.

The calculation above are the worst case scenario, typical application rarely see devices drawing current of each port.

Unibrain 3 port hub for 2 CFFire800 Pro FireWire 800 to UDMA CompactFlash Drives[1] A notible exception is the CFFire800 Pro FireWire 800 UDMA CompactFlash reader with Unibrain's 3 Port FireWire 800 Hub. We've tested this off a powered Mac port and were able to run two CFFire800 Pro's without the addtional power supply. Here is a quote from our test results.

While our CFFire800 Pro uses FireWire bus power, we knew it draws less than 500mA, while the MacBook Pro provides just under 1A of current while running on batteries. One product we offer, Unibrain's extremely portable FireRepeater 800, splits source current between two ports. With that in mind we set out to test two CFFire800 Pro readers with FireRepeater 800 to see if it provided enough power off a single FireWire 800 port to enable both CompactFlash readers; we found it worked flawlessly.

12VDC 3A External Power Supplies/Adapters for Unibrain FireWire Devices

This versatile adapter provides up to 3A stable regulated 12V DC output. For use with Unibrain Fire Repeaters, Fire-i Digital cameras and Unibrain FireWire External Hard Drives. It provides power for FireWire devices on laptops that do not provide power through the FireWire ports and can provide additional power for devices connected in an extended link to desktop systems.

Part Number and Description
PS-12VDC-UB 12VDC 3A External Power Supply/Adapter UB (FireWire)
PS-12VDC-UB-EUROPE 12VDC 3A External Power Supply/Adapter UB (FireWire) for European Type C/F outlets
Others available on special order, contact us with outlet type

For full specifications, see the 12VDC 3A External Power Supplies/Adapters for Unibrain FireWire Devices page at EverythingHerePlus.com

Friday, September 10, 2010

September Special $1 Shipping on 5 Port FireRepeater-800 Pro FireWire 800 Repeater Hubs

FireRepeater-800 Pro 5 Port at EverythingHerePlus.comTake advantage of EverythingHerePlus.com's latest offering: $1.00 Priority Mail Flat Rate delivery to every address in the United States on the FW8-FIO-UB5PRH FireRepeater-800 Pro FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Repeater Hub 5 Port. Purchase the power supply (PS-12VDC-UB or PS-12VDC-UB-EUROPE) at the same time, and both items ship in the same box for the same price — EHP will subtract power supply shipping at time of order processing. For international orders or shipping other than USPS Priority Mail, we'll apply a $4.00 USD discount to quoted shipping prices. Offer only available on USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Small Boxes shipping to United States destinations. Offer expires Midnight, September 30, 2010.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010

FireRepeater-800 PRO gets a glowing review from IT Enquirer

FireRepeater-800 Pro FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Repeater Hub 4 Port
IT Enquirer's Erik Vlietinck summed up his review of the 4 port FireWire 800 FireRepeater-800 PRO repeater hub with this glowing endorsement:

In contrast to its competitors, Unibrain’s FireRepeater-800 PRO has a wall mounting bracket to secure the unit in place, and the ability to screw-lock your FireWire cables in place. I would recommend the Unibrain FireRepeater-800 PRO to anyone wanting to connect more devices to his computer than he can daisy-chain, and up to a longer distance than is possible without a repeater device. [full review]

The FireWire 800 four port repeater hub, along with the five and three port models of the FireRepeater line are all available at EverythingHerePlus. For people needing a FireWire 400 model, we still stock the Three Port FireWire 400 Repeater Hub.

Resources:

FireWire 800 Hubs and Repeaters 3 Port, 4 Port, and 5 Port IEEE 1394b
FireWire 800 Hubs for New iMacs and Macs as easy as 3, 4, 5!
Power Supply Information for FireWire Repeater Hubs like
Unibrain's FireRepeater Line

EverythingHerePlus Seller Reviews

Saturday, January 16, 2010

technology musings: FireWire 800 Hubs for New iMacs and Macs as easy as 3, 4, 5!

EverythingHerePlus.com offers 3, 4, and 5 port FireWire 800 Repeater Hubs. Great for new Macs, iMacs, and other computing environments utilizing high performance FireWire 800 peripherals.

Checkout technology musings: FireWire 800 Hubs for New iMacs and Macs as easy as 3, 4, 5! for more information.